traditional media outlets, and that explains the rush -- the rise, pardon me, decade-plus ago of rush limbaugh. today, you know, it's hard, man, it's hard for a guy like me because i get branded a conservative. you know i have never healed myself out that way. i have plenty of conservative views and plenty of liberal views but i constantly feel like i'm swimming upstream because the people who tune in, they expect that that's what they're going to get, and, frankly, many of them are seeking that level of reassurance. i'm not there to offer you reassurance. i'm there to hopefully ask entertaining and probing questions and not to browbeat. >> let's take a look at some more of the president on your program. he's talking about misinformation. i wonder if that's his problem or his problem is people really do have a sense of what he's doing and a lot of people in the center right as well as the right don't want him to do it, which is increase the federal role in taking responsibility for ensuring people's health. i'm not sure the right and center right are comfortable with this basic idea of taking